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+    /*************************************************************************************
+
+    Grid physics library, www.github.com/paboyle/Grid 
+
+    Source file: ./tests/Test_general_coarse_hdcg.cc
+
+    Copyright (C) 2023
+
+Author: Peter Boyle <pboyle@bnl.gov>
+
+    This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+    it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+    the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
+    (at your option) any later version.
+
+    This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+    GNU General Public License for more details.
+
+    You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
+    with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
+    51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
+
+    See the full license in the file "LICENSE" in the top level distribution directory
+    *************************************************************************************/
+    /*  END LEGAL */
+#include <Grid/Grid.h>
+#include <Grid/lattice/PaddedCell.h>
+#include <Grid/stencil/GeneralLocalStencil.h>
+//#include <Grid/algorithms/GeneralCoarsenedMatrix.h>
+#include <Grid/algorithms/iterative/AdefGeneric.h>
+
+using namespace std;
+using namespace Grid;
+
+template<class Coarsened>
+void SaveOperator(Coarsened &Operator,std::string file)
+{
+#ifdef HAVE_LIME
+  emptyUserRecord record;
+  ScidacWriter WR(Operator.Grid()->IsBoss());
+  assert(Operator._A.size()==Operator.geom.npoint);
+  WR.open(file);
+  for(int p=0;p<Operator._A.size();p++){
+    auto tmp = Operator.Cell.Extract(Operator._A[p]);
+    WR.writeScidacFieldRecord(tmp,record);
+  }
+  WR.close();
+#endif
+}
+template<class Coarsened>
+void LoadOperator(Coarsened &Operator,std::string file)
+{
+#ifdef HAVE_LIME
+  emptyUserRecord record;
+  Grid::ScidacReader RD ;
+  RD.open(file);
+  assert(Operator._A.size()==Operator.geom.npoint);
+  for(int p=0;p<Operator.geom.npoint;p++){
+    conformable(Operator._A[p].Grid(),Operator.CoarseGrid());
+    RD.readScidacFieldRecord(Operator._A[p],record);
+  }    
+  RD.close();
+  Operator.ExchangeCoarseLinks();
+#endif
+}
+template<class aggregation>
+void SaveBasis(aggregation &Agg,std::string file)
+{
+#ifdef HAVE_LIME
+  emptyUserRecord record;
+  ScidacWriter WR(Agg.FineGrid->IsBoss());
+  WR.open(file);
+  for(int b=0;b<Agg.subspace.size();b++){
+    WR.writeScidacFieldRecord(Agg.subspace[b],record);
+  }
+  WR.close();
+#endif
+}
+template<class aggregation>
+void LoadBasis(aggregation &Agg, std::string file)
+{
+#ifdef HAVE_LIME
+  emptyUserRecord record;
+  ScidacReader RD ;
+  RD.open(file);
+  for(int b=0;b<Agg.subspace.size();b++){
+    RD.readScidacFieldRecord(Agg.subspace[b],record);
+  }    
+  RD.close();
+#endif
+}
+
+
+template<class Field> class TestSolver : public LinearFunction<Field> {
+public:
+  TestSolver() {};
+  void operator() (const Field &in, Field &out){    out = Zero();  }     
+};
+
+
+RealD InverseApproximation(RealD x){
+  return 1.0/x;
+}
+
+// Want Op in CoarsenOp to call MatPcDagMatPc
+template<class Field>
+class HermOpAdaptor : public LinearOperatorBase<Field>
+{
+  LinearOperatorBase<Field> & wrapped;
+public:
+  HermOpAdaptor(LinearOperatorBase<Field> &wrapme) : wrapped(wrapme)  {};
+  void Op     (const Field &in, Field &out)   { wrapped.HermOp(in,out);  }
+  void HermOp(const Field &in, Field &out)    { wrapped.HermOp(in,out); }
+  void AdjOp     (const Field &in, Field &out){ wrapped.HermOp(in,out);  }
+  void OpDiag (const Field &in, Field &out)                  {    assert(0);  }
+  void OpDir  (const Field &in, Field &out,int dir,int disp) {    assert(0);  }
+  void OpDirAll  (const Field &in, std::vector<Field> &out)  {    assert(0);  };
+  void HermOpAndNorm(const Field &in, Field &out,RealD &n1,RealD &n2){    assert(0);  }
+};
+template<class Field,class Matrix> class ChebyshevSmoother : public LinearFunction<Field>
+{
+public:
+  using LinearFunction<Field>::operator();
+  typedef LinearOperatorBase<Field> FineOperator;
+  FineOperator   & _SmootherOperator;
+  Chebyshev<Field> Cheby;
+  ChebyshevSmoother(RealD _lo,RealD _hi,int _ord, FineOperator &SmootherOperator) :
+    _SmootherOperator(SmootherOperator),
+    Cheby(_lo,_hi,_ord,InverseApproximation)
+  {
+    std::cout << GridLogMessage<<" Chebyshev smoother order "<<_ord<<" ["<<_lo<<","<<_hi<<"]"<<std::endl;
+  };
+  void operator() (const Field &in, Field &out) 
+  {
+    Field tmp(in.Grid());
+    tmp = in;
+    Cheby(_SmootherOperator,tmp,out);
+  }
+};
+
+int main (int argc, char ** argv)
+{
+  Grid_init(&argc,&argv);
+
+  const int Ls=24;
+  const int nbasis = 40;
+  const int cb = 0 ;
+  RealD mass=0.00078;
+  RealD M5=1.8;
+  RealD b=1.5;
+  RealD c=0.5;
+
+  GridCartesian         * UGrid   = SpaceTimeGrid::makeFourDimGrid(GridDefaultLatt(),
+								   GridDefaultSimd(Nd,vComplex::Nsimd()),
+								   GridDefaultMpi());
+  GridRedBlackCartesian * UrbGrid = SpaceTimeGrid::makeFourDimRedBlackGrid(UGrid);
+  GridCartesian         * FGrid   = SpaceTimeGrid::makeFiveDimGrid(Ls,UGrid);
+  GridRedBlackCartesian * FrbGrid = SpaceTimeGrid::makeFiveDimRedBlackGrid(Ls,UGrid);
+
+  // Construct a coarsened grid with 4^4 cell
+  Coordinate clatt = GridDefaultLatt();
+  for(int d=0;d<clatt.size();d++){
+    clatt[d] = clatt[d]/4;
+  }
+  GridCartesian *Coarse4d =  SpaceTimeGrid::makeFourDimGrid(clatt,
+							    GridDefaultSimd(Nd,vComplex::Nsimd()),
+							    GridDefaultMpi());;
+  GridCartesian *Coarse5d =  SpaceTimeGrid::makeFiveDimGrid(1,Coarse4d);
+
+  ///////////////////////// RNGs /////////////////////////////////
+  std::vector<int> seeds4({1,2,3,4});
+  std::vector<int> seeds5({5,6,7,8});
+  std::vector<int> cseeds({5,6,7,8});
+
+  GridParallelRNG          RNG5(FGrid);   RNG5.SeedFixedIntegers(seeds5);
+  GridParallelRNG          RNG4(UGrid);   RNG4.SeedFixedIntegers(seeds4);
+  GridParallelRNG          CRNG(Coarse5d);CRNG.SeedFixedIntegers(cseeds);
+
+  ///////////////////////// Configuration /////////////////////////////////
+  LatticeGaugeField Umu(UGrid);
+
+  FieldMetaData header;
+  std::string file("ckpoint_lat.4000");
+  NerscIO::readConfiguration(Umu,header,file);
+
+  //////////////////////// Fermion action //////////////////////////////////
+  MobiusFermionD Ddwf(Umu,*FGrid,*FrbGrid,*UGrid,*UrbGrid,mass,M5,b,c);
+
+  SchurDiagMooeeOperator<MobiusFermionD, LatticeFermion> HermOpEO(Ddwf);
+
+  typedef HermOpAdaptor<LatticeFermionD> HermFineMatrix;
+  HermFineMatrix FineHermOp(HermOpEO);
+  
+  LatticeFermion result(FrbGrid); result=Zero();
+
+  LatticeFermion    src(FrbGrid); random(RNG5,src);
+
+  // Run power method on FineHermOp
+  PowerMethod<LatticeFermion>       PM;   PM(HermOpEO,src);
+
+ 
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  ///////////// Coarse basis and Little Dirac Operator ///////
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  typedef GeneralCoarsenedMatrix<vSpinColourVector,vTComplex,nbasis> LittleDiracOperator;
+  typedef LittleDiracOperator::CoarseVector CoarseVector;
+
+  NextToNextToNextToNearestStencilGeometry5D geom(Coarse5d);
+  NearestStencilGeometry5D geom_nn(Coarse5d);
+  
+  // Warning: This routine calls PVdagM.Op, not PVdagM.HermOp
+  typedef Aggregation<vSpinColourVector,vTComplex,nbasis> Subspace;
+  Subspace Aggregates(Coarse5d,FrbGrid,cb);
+
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Need to check about red-black grid coarsening
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  LittleDiracOperator LittleDiracOp(geom,FrbGrid,Coarse5d);
+
+  bool load=true;
+  if ( load ) {
+    LoadBasis(Aggregates,"Subspace.scidac");
+    LoadOperator(LittleDiracOp,"LittleDiracOp.scidac");
+  } else {
+    Aggregates.CreateSubspaceChebyshev(RNG5,HermOpEO,nbasis,
+				       95.0,0.1,
+				       //				     400,200,200 -- 48 iters
+				       //				     600,200,200 -- 38 iters, 162s
+				       //				     600,200,100 -- 38 iters, 169s
+				       //				     600,200,50  -- 88 iters. 370s 
+				       800,
+				       200,
+				       100,
+				       0.0);
+    LittleDiracOp.CoarsenOperator(FineHermOp,Aggregates);
+    SaveBasis(Aggregates,"Subspace.scidac");
+    SaveOperator(LittleDiracOp,"LittleDiracOp.scidac");
+  }
+  
+  // Try projecting to one hop only
+  LittleDiracOperator LittleDiracOpProj(geom_nn,FrbGrid,Coarse5d);
+  LittleDiracOpProj.ProjectNearestNeighbour(0.01,LittleDiracOp); // smaller shift 0.02? n
+
+  typedef HermitianLinearOperator<LittleDiracOperator,CoarseVector> HermMatrix;
+  HermMatrix CoarseOp     (LittleDiracOp);
+  HermMatrix CoarseOpProj (LittleDiracOpProj);
+  
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Build a coarse lanczos
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  Chebyshev<CoarseVector>      IRLCheby(0.2,40.0,71);  // 1 iter
+  FunctionHermOp<CoarseVector> IRLOpCheby(IRLCheby,CoarseOp);
+  PlainHermOp<CoarseVector>    IRLOp    (CoarseOp);
+  int Nk=48;
+  int Nm=64;
+  int Nstop=Nk;
+  ImplicitlyRestartedLanczos<CoarseVector> IRL(IRLOpCheby,IRLOp,Nstop,Nk,Nm,1.0e-5,20);
+
+  int Nconv;
+  std::vector<RealD>            eval(Nm);
+  std::vector<CoarseVector>     evec(Nm,Coarse5d);
+  CoarseVector c_src(Coarse5d); c_src=1.0;
+  CoarseVector c_res(Coarse5d); 
+  CoarseVector c_ref(Coarse5d); 
+
+  PowerMethod<CoarseVector>       cPM;   cPM(CoarseOp,c_src);
+
+  IRL.calc(eval,evec,c_src,Nconv);
+  DeflatedGuesser<CoarseVector> DeflCoarseGuesser(evec,eval);
+
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Build a coarse space solver
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  int maxit=20000;
+  ConjugateGradient<CoarseVector>  CG(1.0e-8,maxit,false);
+  ConjugateGradient<LatticeFermionD>  CGfine(1.0e-8,10000,false);
+  ZeroGuesser<CoarseVector> CoarseZeroGuesser;
+
+  //  HPDSolver<CoarseVector> HPDSolve(CoarseOp,CG,CoarseZeroGuesser);
+  HPDSolver<CoarseVector> HPDSolve(CoarseOp,CG,DeflCoarseGuesser);
+  c_res=Zero();
+  HPDSolve(c_src,c_res); c_ref = c_res;
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"src norm "<<norm2(c_src)<<std::endl;
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"ref norm "<<norm2(c_ref)<<std::endl;
+  //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Deflated (with real op EV's) solve for the projected coarse op
+  // Work towards ADEF1 in the coarse space
+  //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  HPDSolver<CoarseVector> HPDSolveProj(CoarseOpProj,CG,DeflCoarseGuesser);
+  c_res=Zero();
+  HPDSolveProj(c_src,c_res);
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"src norm "<<norm2(c_src)<<std::endl;
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"res norm "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+  c_res = c_res - c_ref;
+  std::cout << "Projected solver error "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+
+  //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Coarse ADEF1 with deflation space
+  //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  ChebyshevSmoother<CoarseVector,HermMatrix >
+    CoarseSmoother(1.0,37.,8,CoarseOpProj);  // just go to sloppy 0.1 convergence
+    //  CoarseSmoother(0.1,37.,8,CoarseOpProj);  //
+  //  CoarseSmoother(0.5,37.,6,CoarseOpProj);  //  8 iter 0.36s
+  //    CoarseSmoother(0.5,37.,12,CoarseOpProj);  // 8 iter, 0.55s
+  //    CoarseSmoother(0.5,37.,8,CoarseOpProj);// 7-9 iter
+  //  CoarseSmoother(1.0,37.,8,CoarseOpProj); // 0.4 - 0.5s solve to 0.04, 7-9 iter
+  //  ChebyshevSmoother<CoarseVector,HermMatrix > CoarseSmoother(0.5,36.,10,CoarseOpProj);  // 311
+
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // CG, Cheby mode spacing 200,200
+  // Unprojected Coarse CG solve to 1e-8 : 190 iters, 4.9s
+  // Unprojected Coarse CG solve to 4e-2 :  33 iters, 0.8s
+  // Projected Coarse CG solve to 1e-8 : 100 iters, 0.36s
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // CoarseSmoother(1.0,48.,8,CoarseOpProj); 48 evecs 
+  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+  // ADEF1 Coarse solve to 1e-8 : 44 iters, 2.34s  2.1x gain
+  // ADEF1 Coarse solve to 4e-2 : 7 iters, 0.4s
+  // HDCG 38 iters 162s
+  //
+  // CoarseSmoother(1.0,40.,8,CoarseOpProj); 48 evecs 
+  // ADEF1 Coarse solve to 1e-8 : 37 iters, 2.0s  2.1x gain
+  // ADEF1 Coarse solve to 4e-2 : 6 iters, 0.36s
+  // HDCG 38 iters 169s
+
+  TwoLevelADEF1defl<CoarseVector>
+    cADEF1(1.0e-8, 500,
+	   CoarseOp,
+	   CoarseSmoother,
+	   evec,eval);
+
+  c_res=Zero();
+  cADEF1(c_src,c_res);
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"src norm "<<norm2(c_src)<<std::endl;
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"cADEF1 res norm "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+  c_res = c_res - c_ref;
+  std::cout << "cADEF1 solver error "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+  
+  //  cADEF1.Tolerance = 4.0e-2;
+  //  cADEF1.Tolerance = 1.0e-1;
+  cADEF1.Tolerance = 5.0e-2;
+  c_res=Zero();
+  cADEF1(c_src,c_res);
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"src norm "<<norm2(c_src)<<std::endl;
+  std::cout << GridLogMessage<<"cADEF1 res norm "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+  c_res = c_res - c_ref;
+  std::cout << "cADEF1 solver error "<<norm2(c_res)<<std::endl;
+  
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  // Build a smoother
+  //////////////////////////////////////////
+  //  ChebyshevSmoother<LatticeFermionD,HermFineMatrix > Smoother(10.0,100.0,10,FineHermOp); //499
+  //  ChebyshevSmoother<LatticeFermionD,HermFineMatrix > Smoother(3.0,100.0,10,FineHermOp);  //383
+  //  ChebyshevSmoother<LatticeFermionD,HermFineMatrix > Smoother(1.0,100.0,10,FineHermOp);  //328
+  //  std::vector<RealD> los({0.5,1.0,3.0}); // 147/142/146 nbasis 1
+  //  std::vector<RealD> los({1.0,2.0}); // Nbasis 24: 88,86 iterations
+  //  std::vector<RealD> los({2.0,4.0}); // Nbasis 32 == 52, iters
+  //  std::vector<RealD> los({2.0,4.0}); // Nbasis 40 == 36,36 iters
+
+  //
+  // Turns approx 2700 iterations into 340 fine multiplies with Nbasis 40
+  // Need to measure cost of coarse space.
+  //
+  // -- i) Reduce coarse residual   -- 0.04
+  // -- ii) Lanczos on coarse space -- done
+  // -- iii) Possible 1 hop project and/or preconditioning it - easy - PrecCG it and
+  //         use a limited stencil. Reread BFM code to check on evecs / deflation strategy with prec
+  //
+  std::vector<RealD> los({3.0}); // Nbasis 40 == 36,36 iters
+
+  //  std::vector<int> ords({7,8,10}); // Nbasis 40 == 40,38,36 iters (320,342,396 mults)
+  std::vector<int> ords({7}); // Nbasis 40 == 40 iters (320 mults)  
+
+  for(int l=0;l<los.size();l++){
+
+    RealD lo = los[l];
+
+    for(int o=0;o<ords.size();o++){
+
+      ConjugateGradient<CoarseVector>  CGsloppy(4.0e-2,maxit,false);
+      HPDSolver<CoarseVector> HPDSolveSloppy(CoarseOp,CGsloppy,DeflCoarseGuesser);
+      
+      //    ChebyshevSmoother<LatticeFermionD,HermFineMatrix > Smoother(lo,92,10,FineHermOp); // 36 best case
+      ChebyshevSmoother<LatticeFermionD,HermFineMatrix > Smoother(lo,92,ords[o],FineHermOp);  // 311
+
+      //////////////////////////////////////////
+      // Build a HDCG solver
+      //////////////////////////////////////////
+      TwoLevelADEF2<LatticeFermion,CoarseVector,Subspace>
+	HDCG(1.0e-8, 100,
+	     FineHermOp,
+	     Smoother,
+	     HPDSolveSloppy,
+	     HPDSolve,
+	     Aggregates);
+
+      TwoLevelADEF2<LatticeFermion,CoarseVector,Subspace>
+	HDCGdefl(1.0e-8, 100,
+		 FineHermOp,
+		 Smoother,
+		 cADEF1,
+		 HPDSolve,
+		 Aggregates);
+      
+      result=Zero();
+      HDCGdefl(src,result);
+
+      result=Zero();
+      HDCG(src,result);
+
+      
+    }
+  }
+
+  // Standard CG
+  result=Zero();
+  CGfine(HermOpEO, src, result);
+  
+  Grid_finalize();
+  return 0;
+}